It’s more common to see a hot girl with an ugly guy than the other way around. This is mainly due to the fact that any guy can overcome a dollop of bad genetics with a lot of money and a fancy car. Seeing a hot guy with an ugly girl is so rare that I remember the one instance where I actually witnessed it. It was my junior year in college and I was planning a hot weekend of playing Starcraft on the internet, when I saw a huge pasty girl holding hands with a good looking guy. I noticed that her huge sausage fingers were hiding his hand in a socially unacceptable display of love.

Men have a shallow gene that has been passed on for generations, making looks far more important than any other quality a woman can possess. The best advice I can give a mediocre woman is to go to the gym and do some squats to plump up that ass, because personality is a guy’s number two trait at best. So when a guy says he wants a hot girl, that’s just evolution talking. But when a girl says she wants a hot guy, it is a guarantee that she is mediocre looking.

These mediocre girls rate about a 6-7 out of 10 on the looks scale, and usually grow up with at least one hot friend who gets all the guys. She probably doesn’t have trouble getting guys herself, but she wants that model stud, that one guy who she can show off to her friends. A trophy boyfriend. It doesn’t matter if the guy can has the personality of a rock as long as he is considered hot by today’s societal standards. She’ll introduce her guy to friends and then say, “He’s hot, right?”

If you observe closely, you will notice that hot girls usually go out with average or slightly above average looking guys. These girls are already validated daily by their looks, so there is no need to seek validation in their mate as well. They pick the guy that they actually like, not one that looks good (prompting many “I don’t believe she’s with him” remarks from other jealous men). The mediocre girl is stuck in a society where her looks are judged more than anything else, leaving her with no choice but to live in other people’s eyes, not her own. But one should not have sympathy for the female mediocre lot: they should get their standards in line with reality and choose a mate whose looks is as average as hers.

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Bulls-eye

This is slightly controversial, but my male friend commented that it is easier to hook up with a less attractive girl, because she will expect less out of the relationship. She’s just excited to be with a hot guy and knows she isn’t really getting anything more. A girl that is pretty, knows her worth and will demand the attention.

Interesting observation. I actually have friends who have admitted to ‘dating down’ — i.e. dating guys they feel are less attractive than them — so they can be more confident/in control of the relationship. Me? I look for some one of equal smarts and looks

i find this goes for mediocre men also. i seem to get all the newly single men chatting with me about their dating lives (as I am eternally single for some reason - perhaps I am medicore - haha:)
The men point out these women they are going for and I scratch my head? They are drop dead beauties and I know they are out of the their (the guys) league. He is usually oblivious….

So Mr. Bachelor, what you are trying to say is that yoiu are the one dating hot girls. That makes you….Mediocre? Interesting, I love how men find ways to make themselves feel better. hm.

So what exactly did you just do Admirer?

Good to see you are back in top form DCB.

So good and so true.

Interesting post, it makes me think of two references:
Neil LaBute’s play “Fat Pig,” which is about a fat girl dating an attractive guy and how they/their friends “deal” with it (playing in DC now at Studio Theater)

And, Jimmy Soul’s classic lyris: “If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, Never make a pretty woman your wife, So for my personal point of view, Get an ugly girl to marry you”

VERY interesting post, and quite true. The boy and I were discussing the other day how you rarely see hot guys with average/ugly girls on TV, but you always see hot girls with average/ugly guys. Seems to be true in “real life” as well. I like to call this phenomenon “punting beyond one’s coverage.”

Its all about notches….at times having an ugly notch is forgettable but doable…….its true though, a hot girlfriend/wife/significant other is a headache for the rest of your life…..but fuck it we all know we are willing to live with that headache….

As you approach 30, how someone looks is not nearly as important as it was when you were say 21. Every hot guy I have ever dated was a jerk or a player. I will certainly take a less attractive guy who is intelligent and knows how to treat a woman well over a hot guy thesedays.

so… what about the hot guy who happens to be a gentleman who knows how to treat the ladies right?

Had this convo with a friend on Saturday. Our conclusion was that guys are shallow and although girls can be picky about a guys looks she date someone more mediocure because he has a better personality, conversation skills, etc.
You’re a little off base with the theory that mediocure girls only want hot guys that they can show off to their friends. She’ll make them more jealous by telling them what a great guy he is, how nice he is to her, sweet things he does, etc.

So THAT explains why I’ve dated so many average-looking guys…

Women want hot men because they have the physical features that suggest they have the best genes (for survival) to pass down to offspring. However, some women prefer a rich man instead of a hot man, because they value financial security over physically genetic superiority. Men, on the other hand, are biologically programmed to spread their seed far and wide to ensure survivial of their genes. It’s all scientific and stuff.

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You my man — might have the funniest freakin blog on the internet. I got every body reading your daily storied down here in sunny Tampa, Florida where meat heads rule the roost.

How about some more top 10 lists.? That top 10 dating tips for women, might be the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

the #8 or whatever

“Stroke, don’t tug or pull, it’s not a doorknob” has to the be the funniest, most true thing I have ever read.

Keep up the good work

-A fan in Tampa.

Hilarious. Beauty and the Beasts syndrome. I dig that!!!

A friend of mine used to say that the happiest couples are the ones where the female is more attractive than the male. The girl feels superior–like she is in control, while the male worships the female. BUT if the male is more attractive, the woman is constantly feeling inferior, constantly doubting the male, untrusting of their partner, and generally lacking in self-confidence. The “less attractive” female will always think their partner is cheating. And they most likely will. Because both of them are aren’t satisfied with the relationship.

I think there of course exceptions to this case; my WoW-playing boyfriend who I considered more attractive than me (while others thought WTF, why was I with him?!) was the most one of my most miserable relationships. But I think that had a lot to do with that WoW and Age of Wonders habit.

Sorry Blonde, but that’s a load of bull.

Show me a couple where the male worships the female, and I’ll show you a breakup a few months down the road.

And Vice-Versa.

I’m a fairly good looking fellow, and take pride in being in shape. I’ve dated really hot women, and grew tired of it. So many of them are used to being pandered to, and so many of them have bad habits because no man had a the gall to tell them to shut up. Not all, there are always exceptions.

But in the end, what a man who is a man really wants is a woman who is good in bed, easy on the eyes, gives him peace and quiet, doesn’t bitch, and knows Sunday is football day.

“But in the end, what a man who is a man really wants is a woman who is good in bed, easy on the eyes, gives him peace and quiet, doesn?t bitch, and knows Sunday is football day.”

The best summary I have read of the male perspective in years !

This is all too subjective to discuss! What I may consider “hot” may not be what DCB sees as a good loking male, because “hotness” could be personality based. Sure I can check out a guy and basket him into “drop dead”, “doable”, “potential” and “hell to the no”. but in the end, who i apporach will be based on conversation and not looks, does this make me a mediocre/hot girl is there an in between and also as women get older, there is a shift in the “top five” a man must have and his looks maybe number two to his humor, intelligence, dick size, etc. This theory doesn’t make sense from a woman’s perspective, but may hold some truth for men, you have been purely physical concerning your taste in women according to your posts. Also, date a hot woman and you will always be happy to have on your arm, but insecure as well because you will always be afraid to losing her to someone hotter (though she maynot be about looks, but you are not ready to accept that truth).

I was an ok-to-cute-if-I’m-your-type guy and in my 20s I always had hot girls even though i had neither money nor cars… because there are a lot of hot but mentally ill girls out there, all it took was to know what buttons to push.

Doesn’t work now that I’m older, though. Crazy hot chicks just aren’t around in the older age brackets - I guess they’re either all dead or locked up.

On the Today Show this morning there was a segment about the new trend of Geeks/Nerds and the amount of play they are recieving from beautiful women. The show, “Beauty and the Geek” was also highlighted to further explain the reasoning behind this new trend. Women enjoy the fact that geeks/nerds are not so caught up in their own appearances and actually appreciate the women they are with. They are attentive and respectful while the more attractive men (who are used to women throwing themselves at them) are not. It’s mere psychology, really.

What gets me though, are these mediocre men who act like hot men. I guess some guys get confused…

As far as mediocre women going for hot guys, I don’t really know if that’s true. A mediocre looking woman knows she is mediocre and wouldn’t go for a hot guy b/c she would feel insecure the whole time they are dating. It would be like dating suicide!! She would constantly be worried about her hot friends stealing him, him cheating, etc. etc. I agree with Berry-licious in that a woman will make other woman more jealous by talking about the sweet things her man is doing for her ( roses, romantic dinners, cuddling, being attentive) than by his looks. Woman are not as visual as men, remember? So he’s hot and treating you like crap? No one will be jealous about that.

Men, on the other hand, are visual. We know this. They will date a retard as long as she’s hot. As they get older, this view changes somewhat, but in the end, they would prefer a hot woman than an intelligent one anyday.

Men should fear the hot intelligent woman. They are a force to be reckoned with….

I think this post is clearly written from the standpoint of a boy and not a man. A man will truly appreciate a woman for all her assets…not just her looks. Yes, I believe that everyone wants someone attractive, but not everyone has the same standards.
I think as you mature and experience life, you come to the conclusion that looks are NOT everything. You want someone that enhances your life on all levels, not just someone that looks good. Real men and women want more depth in their relationships. Anyone who says they would rather have a hot guy/girl instead of a fulfilling relationship is in denial. (Not to say that attractive people can’t have deep relationships.)
Who are you to judge someone else’s relationship? Especially since you are not in one. I think your post is full of assumptions about how a woman or man feel in their relationships. How do you know that attractive man with the average woman was not the one pursuing her? How do you know she is constantly judging herself? How do you know an average woman wants a “hot” guy just to feel better about herself and to make her friends jealous? You don’t. Unless their is a caste system that I am unaware of…anyone can date whomever they please. I think it is toxic to look down on other people. Are you so superior to judge others? Perhaps the “hot” guy was attracted to the “average” woman because he finds her attractive and she is confident to know that she can get whomever she wants. And those men who don’t want to date her because they think she is “average”, well, she doesn’t care.
Try being original, DCB. I doubt everyone would consider all the women you have dated attractive.

This is so true. Well said.

“I noticed that her huge sausage fingers were hiding his hand in a socially unacceptable display of love.”

Laughing so hard my stomach hurts!

I just don’t understand how you can say you’ve never seen a “hot” guy with a mediocre girl, and then turn around and say all these mediocre girls want hot men.

The truth is, I’ve never lived in a place where you see as many hot guys with average-looking girls as the greater DC area (except maybe for NYC). There is something about these NE cities where the whole power dynamic bewteen the sexes is skewed so that every plain Jane is constantly on the prowl for the hottest men, and they actually score ‘em and date ‘em.

I lived in metropolitan DC (Alexandria and Arlington) for 9 freakin’ years, and I worked mostly on the Hill. I know the DC area, and the DC area is diametrically different from my hometown of Vegas (where I have moved back to)… here, it’s just the opposite… mediocre and ugly guys with hot chicks everywhere (and I DON’T mean mediocre, ugly middle-aged “swinger” in sports cars or ugly senior citizens in walkers who play slots all day… I mean college student age, 20s, and 30s!)

So I really don’t understand what you’re talking about… it seems like a lot of compensation and denial. I’m what girls call “cute” looking, and even a lawyer, but at 5′8″, I was considered “too short” by most head-in-the-clouds Hill bitches who wanted every guy they dated to look like a 25 year-old version of Gary Hart, and be 6′2″.

DC Bachelor, huh? I know a lot of “perpetual bachelors” in the greater DC area who are there to pursue careers, and are in great jobs, but just can’t get a date because they aren’t an Ashton Kutcher lookalike. Conversely, I knew many young, white women who were players and secretly dated 3-5 guys at a time (like Washingtonienne did). The Washingtonienne (minus the cash left on the kitchen counter) scenario was actually the NORM in the crowd I hung with there… Women had their pick, men were the groveling, neurotic desperados.

If you want a breath of fresh air, all I can say is, come to Vegas and open your eyes!

dude you kick so much ass, This blod could not be any truer. However as i find myself reading I also found myself re-evaluating my relationship. Girls just need to stop bitching, and know that everything is not always about them.

This is not true, this is too stereotypical. Some hot girls want to be with hotter guys, because they like the attention, more the better.

Some hot girls like to be with not so hot guy, because they don’t need too much attention.

Some hot girls like to be with ugly guy, because he know how to take care of her or rich or smart.

All my girlfriends are hot, I am above average looking guy. I have seen so many hot girls that I know how to handle them, experience is a important. So go out there, get rejected get slap get laugh at, your balls will grew bigger and one day you are just going to be… god

I’ll bet you’re ugly as all get out, huh sweetheart?

Bet you wish you were hot. Hahahahhaha!

Sheesh. Everyone wants to date someone hot. We all love to look at pretty people and give them stuff.

The most gorgeous men I’ve ever known were sort of odd-looking when I first met them. Funny thing is, the more I got to know them, the better looking they got! Beauty is in the facial expression, not the face! :love:

bullseye? more like bull****…. why should women put up with mediocre men. Damn straight I want a hot guy…and I am FAR from mediocre, baby!

Important is to find the trick how u will going to be “hot” Doesn?t matter if the girl is fat or not.
Ye is true that usually u see ugly guys with beautiful girls. This happened coz girls doesn’t care only about the look, but also for the soul, and now days I haven?t seen a ugly girl. All the girls are beautiful.

It’s sooo unfair, hot guys have ugly girlfriends and hot chicks have ugly boyfriends.
It’s sooo weird.
If anyone would like to tell me why this is!!!

Wow! interesting comments. I have pondered most of the themes presented here a lot. It seems from my personal point of view, and I don’t know, maybe I’m just fvcked because I’m only 5′4′ that most attractive women (including mildly attractive) fall into three major catagories: intelligent dragonlady bitch, mentally ill I’ll date anyone with a good pot connection bitch and lastly, I’m hot and stupid but I still won’t go out with you bitch.

Where’s the fvcking happy medium. Yes I do see guys who don’t have two nickles to rub together who look like they took a shovel to the face and they have the hot chick. But…where’s the happy medium.

Science has already answered this question. Women are not attracted to physical beauty. Women are attracted to power, and social status. This can take many forms (not just money), such as populartiy, a cool job, a guitar player, etc., etc. Next time you talk to the model who is telling you how “sweet” her beast is, just dig a little deeper and I guarantee you will find some kind of theme on his side. Men are simply attracted to physical beauty and youth. All this is in mother natures grand scheme and its worked this way since the beginning of time. The only thing that I do not understand is why women deny it to themselves. And for the women who say “oh not me, I’m different”, remember I’m talking about women who truly have options, the real lookers.

However shallow you are directly relates to the quality of life that you live. Looks are temporary, whether they are good or bad. A guy could find the prettiest girl in the world, but what happens if she’s in an accident and is permanently scarred, or something similar happens? Is she a worthless human being then? If that’s how a man (or woman, it makes no difference) judges other people, then they should expect no mercy in return. Treat others and look at them the way you would want to be looked at.

Science doesn’t define a person. If it did, there would be no point in anyone making choices of their own. Science is not an excuse to hide behind.

When I was in high school, I slept with alot of hot broads. I remember one girl in particular who wouldn’t give me any play whatsoever. She was a solid “9″ and was the smart, artsy type. Her boyfriend was this geeky guy that looked like a mixture between Steve Urkel and Steve Harvey! However, what’s funny is that she worshipped the ground homeboy walked on! Him and I were friends so he would tell me all of their business and how freaky she was in the bedroom. So one day I asked her, “How come you’re not attracted to me, the way you are to Reggie?” She told me that she wanted to be with someone who made her feel appreciated and respected, and that the way he treated her made her like his looks even more. Therefore, I guess what I am saying is that its all about the depth of the girl’s character. If she’s very pretty, she knows that she is and doesn’t need to be with a “super-stud” to feel validated.

I’m not sure about this theory. I’m quite mediocre and I’ve always dated mediocre men and although I have been attracted to “hot” men, I’ve always just seen them as things to look at. All of my friends agree that “hot” men are something to be looked at and not date.

I have been searching the net trying to find a piece on Men who seek validation of their manhood from women… Because I require some answers .. Maybe you all can help ?? I consider myself to be very down to earth and am (apparently according to others) very attractive (Im not modest though) I dated a guy for a year who was average looking but of very superior intelligence sometimes to the point of eccentricity in his behaviours and thought patterns. I found him interesting thus my reason for dating him. Major problem we had (so I discovered) was that the whole time we dated he was sending “kisses/winks” etc to other women on an online dating site. He would constantly flirt with women, get their phone numbers, meet with them, make friends ..(justified as finding people interesting and wanting to know more about them) go out with his friend and practice technique’s on picking up women and the list goes on… He was never unfaithful until the end of our relationship when I was over all his excuses and turning off him. He also has a long history of flirting with his friends girlfriends and ex’s and “cutting the grass” (so to speak) of his friends when they met girls (thus he has hardly any male friends) Amd he is subscribed to this thing called “Mystery Method” which is all about impressing women. His only male friend told me that he thinks he constantly requires validation from women that he is a “Man” and that women find him attractive. Am I wrong to think he is extremely insecure in himself and maybe his behaviour stems from a childhood of being outcast as a brainy nerd ? Or could this really be him being interested in Social Behaviour (as he tells me) Am I a fool ? I am trying to understand as I did love him and it saddens me that he behaves like this when he had a perfectly loving and accepting woman by his side who he says “he will always love”… how can you behave like that when you love someone ?

I need some outside opinions …..

He’s insecure, and terminally selfish and self-centered, AussieGirl. He doesn’t even respect his male friends, so he doesn’t have any. Don’t torture yourself over this guy. The only person he loves is himself.

Indeed I’ve found the author’s observations to be very true. I’ve also observed at least a number of mediocre girls who will in fact reject a man who they find either more attractive than they, or who they percieve to be better, or more talented than they are, especially a man that can communicate well both in speech and/or express himself well in writing. However, these girls, as I’ve noticed, tend to be on the higher-end of mediocre. I shall continue to observe these phenomena and learn more.

I should amend my last entry. Most of these higher-end mediocre women I’ve seen, usually have a lower educational level. Maybe they have a chip on their shoulder or something? Maybe they’re jealous types?

bueno starcraft me parece nice!y soy uno de los grandes viciosos que juegan esto pero es realmente bueno!!!

hello? every single chick flick/chick lit book stars an average looking girl with a rich, good looking guy.

example? bridget jones’ diary. average to decent looking woman who is overweight who has TWO wealthy, good lookin men chasing her. It is the same way in every female oriented show. Look at Desperate Housewives.

Or the Devil Wears Prada– average looking chick- Anne Hathaway with good looking guy. How did that happen?

So it’s like not the king of queens, the world according to jim & everybody loves raymond doesn’t happen in reverse!

””T says,
6 months, 4 weeks ago
On the Today Show this morning there was a segment about the new trend of Geeks/Nerds and the amount of play they are recieving from beautiful women. The show, ?Beauty and the Geek? was also highlighted to further explain the reasoning behind this new trend. Women enjoy the fact that geeks/nerds are not so caught up in their own appearances and actually appreciate the women they are with. They are attentive and respectful while the more attractive men (who are used to women throwing themselves at them) are not. It?s mere psychology, really.

What gets me though, are these mediocre men who act like hot men. I guess some guys get confused?

As far as mediocre women going for hot guys, I don?t really know if that?s true. A mediocre looking woman knows she is mediocre and wouldn?t go for a hot guy b/c she would feel insecure the whole time they are dating. It would be like dating suicide!! She would constantly be worried about her hot friends stealing him, him cheating, etc. etc. I agree with Berry-licious in that a woman will make other woman more jealous by talking about the sweet things her man is doing for her ( roses, romantic dinners, cuddling, being attentive) than by his looks. Woman are not as visual as men, remember? So he?s hot and treating you like crap? No one will be jealous about that.

Men, on the other hand, are visual. We know this. They will date a retard as long as she?s hot. As they get older, this view changes somewhat, but in the end, they would prefer a hot woman than an intelligent one anyday.

Men should fear the hot intelligent woman. They are a force to be reckoned with?. ””

this is the biggest load of crap ive ever seen, sorry. in this case, ‘hot’ is your perspective, so if you think mediocre guys are acting like hot guys, its probably cause they ARE hot guys that you dont find hot.

idiot.

””T says,
6 months, 4 weeks ago
On the Today Show this morning there was a segment about the new trend of Geeks/Nerds and the amount of play they are recieving from beautiful women. The show, ?Beauty and the Geek? was also highlighted to further explain the reasoning behind this new trend. Women enjoy the fact that geeks/nerds are not so caught up in their own appearances and actually appreciate the women they are with. They are attentive and respectful while the more attractive men (who are used to women throwing themselves at them) are not. It?s mere psychology, really.

What gets me though, are these mediocre men who act like hot men. I guess some guys get confused?

As far as mediocre women going for hot guys, I don?t really know if that?s true. A mediocre looking woman knows she is mediocre and wouldn?t go for a hot guy b/c she would feel insecure the whole time they are dating. It would be like dating suicide!! She would constantly be worried about her hot friends stealing him, him cheating, etc. etc. I agree with Berry-licious in that a woman will make other woman more jealous by talking about the sweet things her man is doing for her ( roses, romantic dinners, cuddling, being attentive) than by his looks. Woman are not as visual as men, remember? So he?s hot and treating you like crap? No one will be jealous about that.

Men, on the other hand, are visual. We know this. They will date a retard as long as she?s hot. As they get older, this view changes somewhat, but in the end, they would prefer a hot woman than an intelligent one anyday.

Men should fear the hot intelligent woman. They are a force to be reckoned with?. ””

this is the biggest load of crap ive ever seen, sorry. in this case, ‘hot’ is your perspective, so if you think mediocre guys are acting like hot guys, its probably cause they ARE hot guys that you dont find hot.

idiot.

i think you’l find most western women are self absorbed, not thinking about thier own flaws the the extent that they assume men must be doing everything wrong.

this isnt helped by media that serves only to reinforce the idea that girls, especially good looking girls, are always right.

if you want a good girl, one who isnt self absorbed or an idiot, you’re going to have to search for a loooong time. When you find her, your going to have to work hard, and maybe you’l find you have to improve yourself in order to get her, this goes way beyond looks.

the perfect girl is good looking, enjoys cooking, loves sex and her man. the end.

I agree with Jabba. I have indeed observed these mediocre men who have convinced themselves that they’re hot. Inflated egos, exaggerated self-awareness, or what have you. It’s amazing.

I consider my self good looking woman,but not dat hot,i never make the firts mouve on a men,and i am very reserved person,but in my life i had so many men that had ask me out,or send me flower,ect,i was not interest in men that have just the look,i ad been with somme man that have,the old package,good style,smart,confidence,alot of money,and very charismatic men,the man can be gorgous but if he have no charisma,!!!well to bad.

generally speaking, men get a bad rap. Its women who are more picky. sure men are visual. But aside from the obese extreme…men are so much more forgiving. A woman could have just one body part that is feminine, and she will get attention from men. she will be desired by men sexually. women have this power over men, and know it. i guess the great equalizer is age…and is why women are so competitive…with other women. Men get a bad rap for just wanting models or blondes with big boobs. but this is such a false myth perpetuated by women to make it seem like men are the shallower sex…which is untrue and quite the opposite. Again, i am speaking generally…but women are far more shallow and picky. Its biological. women have a finite number of eggs…men have infinite number of sperm. That is why women are pickier. They have the longer lists…looks, money, power, career on and on. what do men want? simple. men want women. like jerry seinfeld said. they don’t care where a woman works, how much money she has etc…if she is not a grandmother or insanely obese(and i mean insanely obese)…he will be attracted, and excited if a woman pays him attention. women on the other hand place much more importance on facial attractiveness in men. A man could have a great body…but he will not be considered “HOT” unless he is photogenic and has a handsome face. on the other hand, a woman could have an average or even homely face, and yet have a nice body, or even a nice body part…and will still have power over men. Men are such easy creatures to please. But society would like us to feel the opposite. Yes, men are visual creatures…but are much more forgiving and accepting of these visuals. men dont control the fashion world. women and gay men do. straight men do NOT put pressure on women!! Its women who put pressure on other women. again, i am talking about general attractiveness. of course you have to take the whole person in before you judge them. but as far as attraction goes…men are easy to please….women are the picky ones. men have to jump thru all sorts of hoops and meet all sorts of criterea to be considered. hot is hot in either sex, but for the vast majority of “average”…even average women can look sexy to MOst men….because most women are HOT to the average man. Again, unless the woman is fork-lift fat or extremely old…she will have power over men. Men know this…and women DEFINITELY know this. There are MANY more things that will make a woman go “eeeww!! hes gross!”
Again, I am not talking about quality of relationship…i am merely talking about the general topic of attraction…and how men get a bad rap, when in reality it is women who are much more superficial and picky. bottom line…men just want women….while women want EVERYTHING….and change their minds and rules or the time. women may say they want nice and funny, but above all else, they really want a hot face, hot body, money, career, and power in their men. what do men want? women. period. no long list. no games. they just want women, and will find most women sexy. end of story.

hey bubba, were you hurt by a woman? Maybe. I LOVE women…But i have to agree to some extent with what you say.

I think both men and women have it tough. But generally speaking, women DO have the power when it comes to sex. And i do think in general, the average woman can be sexier then the average man…thus making for more lonely and frustrated men then women.

Not being wanted or desired hurts. And I feel men in general suffer more in this regard. sadly though…so many women get caught up competing with other women to be considered HOT that they resort to eating disorders and depression. If ONLY they would realize that most men find them attractive.

i do belive a women (doesn’t matter if she’s hot or not) will go after a hot guy if and only if she’s insecure. I have experince this myself. I’m not hot but this girl use to like me and told me im cute and stuff…but i didnt treat her rite…i was nice to her but i never complimented on her looks or anything.
This is what happend…..she had me on msn. So she after breakin up with me told me the name of some hot guy she likes. She would comment to me about his eyes and his movements. I’v seen him myself and he’s a friend of mine currenty (didn’t know him that time) and he is VERY handsome. Hazel eyes, good bone structue on the face, black hair….like a model! I’m obviously not gay but i can tell when a person is beautiful or handsome.
She was insecure and in class she would start dressing up after we broke up and was even so nervous during class presentations that she would like start shaking….weird
But the main thing is…she liked HOT guys cuz of her own insecurity.

What’s wrong with being an ugly girl? I’m ugly and proud. I expect a lot out of a relationship; I expect to be treated just as well as a hot girl is treated. Just because God made some of us ugly and some of us pretty doesn’t make ugly people lesser human beings. We have a right to date hot guys as well. You’re just jealous because girls don’t like YOU.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isnt beauty (or lack thereof) a matter of individual taste? People have different set of standards when it comes to looks. In other words, sexy to one might be ugly to another.

“so? what about the hot guy who happens to be a gentleman who knows how to treat the ladies right?”

Guys like that exist only on TV…only on TV.

Looks are deceiving. Anything that looks good, we want- simply because we ASSUME that it is of high quality and will give us everything we want.

This is exactly the same with human beings. You would like to look at someone, because he/she has the features for it. It is merely a look. Hot people are like walking billboards with anything alluring to sell the product. Saying is one thing, but proving is another. You can only do that by doing.

The truth is- you would want to be with someone, because you can sense his/her personality, which is great and exceptional.

Yes, it’s true that there are a lot of “Beauty and the beast” couples. That’s because the ugly one is always judged by his appearance and ends up feeling intimidated. Same for the hot one. So it is no wonder why these ‘opposites’ attract.

What I am now going to say is not true in all cases, because looks are there as an indicator of what could be qualitative and what could not. But if you look at the general scale of it- this ought to be very true.

Ugly and beautiful people rule the world. Because they are both on the extreme end of the spectrum- together. Look at models and look at Bill Gates, for example. Without models, people wouldn’t have some fashion magazine to look at. Without Bill Gates, we wouldn’t have PCs with great features and applications. Without both, you wouldn’t even have an ONLINE FASHION MAG FREE OF CHARGE.

In this world there is no place for mediocre people. So, either be good-looking or be charismatic, because either of them (or simply both), can and will definitley make you successfull and you’ll end up with someone to be with.

It is interesting that you state that women who are “mediocre” only seek out handsome partners. Your argument is rather lame. In fact most women appreciate good-looking men and if you have ever been in the company of a group of women (average looking to beautiful) you would observe how almost instanteously they turn into young school girls in the prescence of gorgeous man. The fact is there are very few such “Adonis” types in everyday life. In fact there are plenty of attractive women out there compared to men. Men can literally choose among all types of women who would qualify as beautiful ranging from a variety of ethnicites and shapes, within reason. Lastly, you can be very sexually attractive to the opposite sex and highly intelligent at the same time. Very few people possess these characteristics along with a great personality but one thing I do know is that we do not engage in envious and rather immature commentary about why other people seem happy.

im an attractive male, age 21. I have been seeing a beautiful blonde gal for almost a year now, but i cant help but feel insecure with her. i spend so much time worrying that im not good enough for her, that i tend to not treat her as well she she deserves. All my friends love this girl, and generally would love to “love” her if i wasnt in the picture. My problem is, i get jealous of her friends that are boys. i get paranoid that she is secretly seein others behind my back, etc. and the only way i cope with these insecurities is by trying to confront her about them, only to be sadly mistaken. This has happened for a few months now, and im scared that my insecurities will start to brandish her attraction for me, and my biggest fears will come true. does anyone know any exercises or thought-work activities i can try to get my mind off such horrible notions. Please keep in mind that we are both very attractive individuals, she coudl have any man she wants, and well id like to think i could have alot of different girls. but i only want this one… i just always seem to be screwing things up though. HELPP!!

Josh if you downgrade from a hot woman to an ugly woman then you are gay.

I recommend you get a batch of hot female friends, that way you can make her jealous and scared that way she will have to worry.

If she is an American woman, then she is bound to cheat unless you can lay down the law.

The article is so true. I actually know some of these “mediocre girls.” They’re not just mediocre, they’re — UGLY. And because they’re so shallow, so conceited, and so in denial, they only care about THE hottest guys they see.

They always overlook the guys who are sweet, honest, and totally sexy, just not as hot. I’m not a gorgeous gorgeous girl, but I know that looks only make up a PART of a successful relationship. At least, from a girl’s point of view.

I’m curious though, If hot girls usually date average men, and mediocre girls are too plain to get hot guys then who do the hot guys date???

hot guys are usually bi.

I think you are only looking at one side of the coin here. You are stereotyping ugly girls to be insecure and hot girls to be outgoing. I am told every day(by people other than my mom) that I am gorgeous. If people are so sure that I could have any guy, why don’t I? I’m extremely insecure, as are a lot of women. A study I read showed that most models are very lonely because they don’t believe they are beautiful, and also because men are terrified of them. I for one would like to meet a guy who won’t act shy and cowardly around me. I’ve been with hot guys and mediocre guys and they both act the same way. All I want is a guy who takes control of the relationship, and makes me feel like a woman. Why can’t he be cute too? The idea that only mediocre women want hot men is ridiculous. Trust me, we all want a gorgeous babe to wake up to. Some of us just accept that it won’t happen.

Guys going for hot girls has nothing to do with evolution lol! You post is entertaining. But don’t blame everything guys do on evolution. First, it makes no sense (read what evolution really means). Second, it makes men seem like they are stuck in a hopeless animalistic stage that they were never able to evolve from. Give yourselves a little more credit than that.

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My god, there are about six intelligent comments here. I am mistaken for a model at my best (not by men alone mind you), but I have never ever ever dated a man because I find him attractive. It’s physical attraction + mystery that ignites the attraction and understanding, love, n’ compassion that keeps it going. A man who is in control of himself, mature and loving is the best man, oh and HONEST.. why don’t you men try that on for a change. Bi the way, I’ll only consider having a one night stand with a woman, they’re just more fun, less sweat and mess in general if you know what I mean…Remember that ladies! I’m a man eater make you work….OB>

But what exactly is a ‘medicore’ girl to you guys? DCB first wrote about the ‘huge’ girl with sausage fingers holding hands with a hot guy.
Then writes that a medicore girl is rated about 6-7.
I live in NYC and a girl rated 7 is actually pretty. Not super hot, but a 7 is better than average. I don’t think the huge pasty girl described above would even be given a 6, but less than a 5, or below average.

It’s difficult to find girls that are 9-10 and many guys I know wouldn’t even give their girlfriends (whot they find hot) a 10, but say that number is reserved for perfection or super models.
So a number 7-9 is usually a pretty girl and beauty is subjective anyway..so what one guy considers a 7, another might consider an 8 or vice versa.

If a girl has a hot face, tight body, flat stomach, bubble butt, she is at least in the 9 range.

This is total bollox. Yes woman are attracted to power. BUT…they are equally attracted to guys that are model hot. There is such a double standard. Women are given a “pass” when they judge men’s looks….but men are accussed of being shallow. Truth is woman are FAR more shallow. Yes, its true, you see many hot women with average men. But more often than not, its because they are rich. Men on the other hand don’t care so much about looks. And “average” woman can be HOT…because she is a woman. An average woman can work out and men will drool over her. But a man can work out in the gym all he wants, but if he has an average face it wont matter. A man with a great body but an ugly or average face will get ZERO attention from hot women. BUT a woman with an average or even ugly face but with a great body who works out will get TONS of attention from men. Meaning? Men are alot less shallow. They will look at a WIDER selection of women as HOT….while women are much more picky and will look at a much smaller selection of men as HOT. Its so true. Plus men NEVER judge a woman by what she does. It doesn’t matter. Men don’t judge women by where she works or how much she makes or what she drives or anything like that. BUT women definitely judge men in those areas. SO…not only are women more picky about men in the looks department, they also judge men on $ and power. Men are much less shallow…but are portrayed as the shallower sex. Its totally unfair. I guess the great equalizer is age. Women have this power over men. But as they get older their physical control over men starts to slip away. So if woman just use their power and don’t develop a decent well rounded attitude…when they hit that wall, its ain’t pretty. Its sad that women go for looks when they are young. Looks and money when they get older. And then money when they get older still. Then they realize too late that the “nice funny” guy they ignored all those years ago isn’t around anymore and they are stuck in a loveless empty marraige to a rich guy who ignores them. Pay back is a bitch.

Beauty is on the eye of the beerholder

American women are shallow. They are the most shallowiest. Yet they of all women have no business to be shallow considering they get ugly fast.

While In Eastern Europe and South America an overwhelming majority of hot women are NOT shallow. Now if you are a guy that works a walmart or looks like Freddy Kruger you still will have no chance.
However average men will have a higher chance in getting a hot woman in those parts of the world versus in this feminazi shithole country the USA.

Well, what do you consider hot? Because to me, looking like a model in a man is nice, but there are far more important things:

1) Is he in love with me? Is he telling me that he would rather die than be seperated from me? Would he rather be by my side than anywhere else??? This quality is the most important thing, more important than money, power, looks or anything else that you guys are discussing. If a man doesn’t have the ability to feel this way about me, or about anyone, he is worse than useless- he is an emotional cripple who is destined for a loveless, and therefore worthless materialistic relationship. Look into your hearts people…make room for another there, or all your efforts at connection to another person will be wasted.

2) Is he amazing in bed? A man can love me all he wants, but if he can’t gain the skills to allow me to live up to my sexual and orgasmic potential, I will not be spending time with him for long. Sexuality is very important to women, as you can see from all the women’s magazines with titles “Best Orgasm Ever” and “How to Become Better In Bed”. A man’s best bet isn’t a nice car or a better salary…it’s a map to the G-spot and realistic directions on ways to stimulate the clitoris. Sorry to be blunt but it’s true. That is the reason a hot woman will hang out with a mediocre man…he’s not really that mediocre if he just gave her 20 orgasms, now, is he. Which, by the way, every woman is capable of having.

So face up to it…a lot of men are intimidated by the reality that women are capable of having orgasm after orgasm for hours. Intimidated, and jelous. The men who deal with this and learn how to facilitate it are the ones the women prefer, of course. The men who refuse to learn better techniques end up in stunted relationships.

3) Is he committed? If a woman smells that a man is a cheater or dupicitous, she will break up with him and never return, even if he loves her and he’s great in bed. No woman will put herself through a situation where a man isn’t going to fully commit himself to their relationship. Honestly, there was a situation where a man has shown himself to be duplicitous by flirting with me and then sending a friend a sexy letter the next day. As soon as we realized what had happened, we both dropped him. Thoughout the years, I watched this man wreak havoc in other women’s lives and I felt fortunate that I had seen the warning sign years before and stuck to my guns about not dating him. This has happened in several other situations as well. The man I gave as an example is gorgeous and rich. He still sends me emails to this day from time to time, trying to date me. I never will. I’m sure he will still be displaying this bad behavior, even in the retirement home he goes to.

So there you have it, the formula for dating a beautiful woman: Be 1) committed to the relationship 100% 2) Be in love and show it 3) Be great in bed, willing to learn and do WHATEVER IT TAKES to help her achieve her sexual potential.

I have always preferred the company of above average-looking men, even “hot men” for that matter. I even like dating the metrosexual types. Yes, I am a very very visual female. The first thing I hone in on the guy is his face and physique (typical male attributes). I appreciate a guy who takes great care of his body. Even works out. I take very good care of myself and am in perfect shape. From a scale of 1-10, I would rate myself as a 9!

I’m not looking for security and never have. I avoid the men who worship me as I do not desire to control in the relationship at all. I don’t like the men who drool like dogs at me. I don’t respect dog mentalities. I respect the men who respect themselves. I am at peace with myself and therefore have no desire to control the man. If the man is better looking than myself, it does not bother me for I do not lack in self-esteem.

Now, what I look for in a guy are the following in order. Guys pay attention:

Looks, chemistry, personality, intelligence, and ambition in life.

Why should I settle for somebody that I have absolutely NO chemistry with at all when I can choose to be with somebody I really want to be with. I mean, come on, let’s be honest, ladies. If you’re going to sleep with the guy, you can’t be faking it in bed. He’ll figure you out sooner or later that your love isn’t true and that he’s really nothing but an atm machine for your convenience. This is what I call reverse role pimping.

I would consider myself above average intelligent, and beyond medicore. Conceited? No, but aware that I do attract attention without much effort.

Spunky might be a product of a prostitute with AIDS. Thats why Spunkly likes the faggot looking men

Thats why American women like Spunky are scum and inferior to Eastern European or South American women. Either way Spunky will eventually become a fat cow, like most American cunt looking women.

In EE or South America, they dont care too much about a mans looks as long as he is average. However cunts like Spunky are hypocritical if a man cares more about looks, and hot women. If anything women are not to have any desires, but to put up or shut up.

Hey, Scorpion

The reason why I posted was becasue of what DCB posted on the topic which I quote:

“If you observe closely, you will notice that hot girls usually go out with average or slightly above average looking guys. These girls are already validated daily by their looks, so there is no need to seek validation in their mate as well. ”

First, this is simply untrue. The only reason why a hot girl would perhaps settle for somebody she probably doesn’t really care toomuch for in the looks department and is not as appealing as she is about is because she lacks self-esteem and is not being honest with herself. She doesn’t believe she is worthy enough to be seen with a hot guy. But this is all due to social programing that women have been taught. It is time we began de-programming ourselves of this myth, and for once admit we are worthy to be seen with a hot guy.

It’s really about how one feels about themselves. In South American cultures and EE, as you mentioned, Scoripio, people are encouraged to produce offspring rather than be selective about whom they bed.

And as for the men, they need to de-program themselves with the myth that only mediocore guys get the hot babes. This is also a lie. I have two very handsome looking brothers that get the gorgeous chicks all the time. In fact the chicks come like flies on dung to these two. It’s amazing to watch.

As for me, I think like a man (I am visual almost to a fault), but act like a lady. I know what I want and am not afraid to speak my mind. If that intimidates you, Scorpion, then it is because you have had little contact with real women. I feel for you. Real women stand up for themselves and are not afraid to speak their minds. Real women want men who cherish the women and respect themselves and have disdain for men who worship them at their feet. But mostly, real women and hot babes, want a man who respects himself first.

You, Scorpion, may prefer a woman with a dog mentality, as she is supposed to fear of getting beat up, and the same as some women prefer a guy with a dog mentality, they are “easier to manage”. In either case, neither the guy nor the woman who prefer these submissive types respects themselves nor do they have that respect for that person they are with. These kinds of people sound like they may some wounds that need healing rather than repeating the same injurious mistakes over and over again.

Face reality Spunkly, you can keep all the hot aka gay men, since they cheat the most - most likely with other men.

I am sure you would take a hot guy(biker queer) over an average guy with a ton of degrees.

I have seen tons of hot girls who date hot guys, only to find out the hot guy is taking it up somewhere else.

You are pathetic piece of shit. Yes according to you average men should not be allowed to have hot women, and take only fat cow women.

You dont know shit about South America and EE you stupid U.S. cunt. I have travelled to Rio, Prague, Moscow, Cali, Bogota, Bueonos Aires, Budapest, Bratslava, and Warsaw.

The thing is U.S. women like you in those parts of the world are 5/10 - if you even are lucky. You cannot even compete. Face reality you are INFERIOR.

FYI, the women in those parts of the world do care about looks, BUT not as much as cunt face obesebound shit face U.S. women like you. They aremroe than willing to go out with a nice guy with average looks versus some fag looking queer.

By the way, women have no right being outspoken or to have any real desires or to be overtly selective.

I see cunts like you all the time. When any of my foreign girlfriends come, you criticize me, since I am an average looking with a gorgeous babe.

Again you are INFERIOR woman. You are an ugly, uncultured, most likely fat cow, piece of shit. Your mother must be a prositute and your dead a dead beat or a queer.

By the way your brothers are gay faggots with AIDS, that like trannys.

Well, said, Scorpion. (Applause, Applause). And such colorful language to make your point too! Your mother must be proud to know how you address people in such an ill manner! From the way you expressed your point on how happy you are with your relationships, it doesn’t seem you really are happy after all.

I quote you as saying in part:

“…Yes according to you average men should not be allowed to have hot women, and take only fat cow women.”

I never said that at all and you know that. Shame on you for misstating what I said. What I said was that the men need to kick themselves of the programming they have been brainwashed with to think that only mediocore guys get the hot babes. This is also a lie. I know of many hunks that get the gorgeous babes. But, Scorpion, the secret is how you feel about yourself. Sure, there are some average-looking guys that I often see with very attractive looking ladies but that is not often.

And besides that, what you, Scorpion, may consider hot or gorgeous, somebody else may consider to be skanky and unappealing. It really depends on the individual’s perspective. Don’t allow society to mold you in some category to better define you. I’m sure you dislike labels just like I do. Nobody likes being homogenized into labels.

BTW, I quote you as saying:

“By the way, women have no right being outspoken or to have any real desires or to be overtly selective.”

What country do you come from, Scorpion? In other countries such as Iran, Iraq, Mexico, and South America, women are treated as garbage. I know because I used to live in an apartment building full of them in California and hear the men beat their women every night. It is part of their culture to keep their women down and keep them silent. In America, if you do something like that it becomes a criminal act, and we put guys( and women) like that behind bars for life!

“I never said that at all and you know that.”

Yes you did you fat cunt.
Spunky Cunt, you did IMPLY that you hate average men, and would not give them the time of dat, and that average men should ONLY date fat cow women - like yourself.

“What country do you come from, Scorpion? In other countries such as Iran, Iraq, Mexico, and South America, women are treated as garbage.”

Yes your California apartment is full of Iraqis, Iranians, Mexicans, all of sudden gives you an international perspective. You really are a retarded ugly cunt.You dont know shit about Iran or Iraq. Your just like any other stupid American cunt that has no concept about the world. Your so retarded that you cant even find it on the map or give even a synopsis.

Unlike you, I have traveled all over Europe, South America, and Asia. I even studied in London for 3 years, where I met the real people from all the countries you mentioned.

Men that beat their women is wrong, but women that try to act all that, is just as bad.

I hate women in this country because they try to play two games. They say they want to be treated with respect, but than refuse to date a nice guy.

Thats why I date hot women from foreign countries such as Eastern Europe, Southern European, and South America, where they actually like nice guys and are more physically attractive then cunts like you. The reason they like guys like me is becaue, THERE men beat them and dont respect them. I treat them with kindness and have stated that all men that were mean to them were the GQ looking ones.

My relationships have turned out much better ever since I stopped dating American cunts.

“What country do you come from, Scorpion?”

U.S.A.

Scorpion

I quote you as saying:

“By the way, women have no right being outspoken or to have any real desires or to be overtly selective. ”

Do the “hot women” you date know you really think this way about them?

Hot women, in my opinion, know they are, or at least quite aware they are “hot” but will never compromise their identity or desires for anybody.

I never said any such thing about average looking guys should date “cows”. In fact, I have dated many average looking guys. But they were uncomfortable with my appearance because I was considered “too sophisticated” for them and always attracted attention to both male and females which would make them extremely jealous. It’s not that I don’t date them, but the ones I’ve come into contact with are soooo insecure with themselves that just my presence in dealing with them supposedly “builds” their ego of their inferior attitude about themselves to the point they wanted to drag me down to that mentality. One guy I dated was average-looking but admitted he didn’t like himself and would always put me down because I always dressed up classy. At the same time however, this same guy but would do anything for me. I had to back out of this kind of relationship because I can’t be involved with somebody like this. It’s almost scary. I am a very positive minded individual that believes in working with what you’ve got. If you feel good about yourself, it will attract those you desire! Maybe not all the time, but the key is in believing you are just as good-looking as the hot guy or hot babe.

I am comfortable dating very attractive looking men, even ones that have feminine features to a point. I don’t care if they are better looking than I. I believe in chemistry. When I meet a guy for the first time, the way they look always sticks to my mind. I don’t believe in being involved in a relationship without chemistry. Some say, “the love will grow” as the relationship matures. I think this is baloney. I know of people that have been married for 40 years and there is no love in their relationships at all. Much of it is based on convenience. To me, either you have the right chemistry or you don’t. I have always been this way since I was little. You say you treat your women with respect…I do hope that is true because there is a shortage of good men just as there is a shortage of good women.

I can see your point very well about American women playing deceptive cruel head games. It is definitely not right. I see it every day and it makes me very mad as it stereotypes American women as bad news. Sorry you’ve had such a bad experience with them. But think on this too: American women are dating European men because the American men regardless of their “hotness” are lacking in something too.

Just curious, Scorpion, but is your screenname your birthsign? (What month and day is your b-day)

No I am Aeries

“Hot women, in my opinion, know they are, or at least quite aware they are “hot” but will never compromise their identity or desires for anybody”

Um, yes they do comprimise, but American women dont because they are cunts.

“Do the “hot women” you date know you really think this way about them?”

For the most part yes. If the guy looks like Freddy Kruger, then obviously it makes sense for a hot woman to say no. But if the guy is average and being nice, then the hot woman has an obligation.

European men date American women and then kick them to the side of the curb. Its like trying out a Ford after you have driven a BMW or Lexus. The Ford seems ok for a while, but lacks class.

If you have decided to shut out all average men, then either you live in a shitty place or you care ONLY about whether a guy is hot or not. If you are hot, and that guy didnt want you to dress sexy, then he is gay.

In Eastern Europe and South America, the girls I ran into looked like VS models. However, they had an open personality. While I was in Prague, women are not just gorgeous, but they can speak 3-4 languages, and have very open personalities.

I do care if a woman is hot, but I want some optional features. In the U.S. it is not possible to get that.

I’m an Aries too. March 29th. I measure as 36-26-37, 118 lbs (been same weight since high school), with a height level of 5′2″. Long dark hair and no cellulite.

I’ve heard that European men disrespect American women. Maybe I should just steer away from them. I haven’t dated many Europeans; except one from Australia who was highly intelligent and very handsome. We just were friends but no chemistry existed between us. See, I have to admit, that although the person may be handsome, if there’s no chemistry…there’s nothing really.

So what if the guy was average and had chemistry, you will right him off??

You are an Aeries I was in April.

“Chemistry” as in attracted to the person is what I’d be seeking. And yes, I’ve been attracted to average men. I never said I omit average men out of the picture. I think what really matters is the chemistry part and how that person views themself. In other words, I like a man that has a positive image of himself. I say this because how can the guy ever love a woman if he doesn’t love himself FIRST.

I’m a very pretty boy, like one of those pretty final fantasy dudes, i’m of indian descent, have perfectly straight hair, full lips, pretty eyes and i have the hardest time finding a girl. I hear they think i’m cute, not handsome cute. If i approach girls they never give me the light of day to prove to them that i’m a wonderful person. I was confused, thought i was ugly but i know its not true. I’m 21 with no girlfriend. I’m not changing my appearance for them. This is how i look naturally, and i admire the few girls that make advances, very few. My ways are masculine, but i’m very docile and peaceloving. I guess i’l just wait for the right girl to come along. I’m far from shallow and i hope people would see that. Japanese girls seem to prefer me. I don’t know whether this is a general trend that jap girls like pretty boys

I like the pretty boys alot. You don’t have to be drop-dead gorgeous to get the attention of the ladies. I ‘ve never gone out with a pretty boy but I wouldn’t mind at all. I’ve been with the average guys but it just doesn’t put much of a spark in me. I like the pretty boys that KNOW how to dress and treat a lady. The masculine types turn me off. Something about the masculinity macho character disagrees with my peaceful nature. I’m of Indian descent (Cherokee) in me, along with Italian, and Swede. Very dark long hair with pale skin. Petite figure. Elegant and sophisticated in nature.

I’ll come right to the real issue.
90% of “real” guys will not divorce women if they treat there husbands in the way they are treating them from 1000’s of years(You can call me a sexist or whatever but thats all a man wants.Don’t get me wrong,he doesn’t want to treat you as second class he just wants to act like a man.A man has balls and they will call there lawyer if there balls are threatened).Now i am not talking about rest 10% who abuse a totally good woman or have become slaves to the evil women,they don’t have balls.

Men don’t play games(They think they do but they really don’t).And they are really satisfied with the overall love with a woman.Real love is only alive in men or 50% women and these women live happily everafter with there partner and the rest look for a man who will be there puppet and 10% of them succeed and the rest keep looking and divorcing.

Treat your Man like a Man and he will treat you like a woman.But when some women treat there men like a woman then there balls start tingling and lawyers phone start ringing.These women don’t know how to back off,hell hath no fury like …scorn..blah blah.

Before you flame me think the difference between your brains fantasy world and the real world.

Man i hate my ex-wife.

Hi Snake

I don’t respect men that are spineless and lack balls. I also do not like men who behave like puppets to the women they are involved with. I just like a hell of a good looking guy with a sweet nature but has some spine in his back.

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ENOUGH, Thanks for that site information.

Lol n problem. Hopefully some of the guys on this site will actually use it. Also everyone should check out Double Your Dating. For the google challenged it’s here: http://doubleyourdating.com/
It is better for newbies in my opinion than Real Social Dynamics.

im a really good looking guy. i found out a few years ago after posting pics on rating websites. Its funny becuase i was always the awkward shy kid in high school. Its fun being a pretty boy

Josh

Josh

When I was in high school, I was small in build in that everybody towered over me. Even the gals were built like amazons over me. I was just 4′ 3″ (a kids size) but had a build on me in all the right places. I was told I was pretty too but I never believed any of it. It wasn’t until I got into working on the stage in entertainment that I started to have some confidence in myself and appearance.

Keep up the positive self-image. Nothing wrong with feeling good about the way you look one bit.

Enough you are a retarded moronic bastard cunt face scumbag. You lack any real skills.

If a man wants hot drop dead gorgeous women, all he has to do is go to Eastern Europe or South America. He wont have any problem.

If he choses to stay behind here, then he likes fat cow women.

Hahaha Scorpion, I’m glad you choose ad hominem attack over actually addressing any of my arguments. Then again I guess I can’t expect much from an illiterate dumbass with down syndrome on an internet blog site. Man I love trolls. On a serious note though Scorpion, I’m sorry American women reject you all the time so you have to go to other countries where it’s easier. Yep you’re a real man, you run away whenever something is a challenge. Hey kid before you start learning about how to have game maybe you should pick up a hooked on phonics kit. Lol real skills, maybe you should get out of your mom’s basement before you criticize others for not having skill. Have a nice day you ass poney.

Enough it is clear that you are a gay AIDS ridden homo that lives with his pedophile father.

I go to other countries because the quality of women is a billion times better and the women are more willing to have sex.

Yes you can go challenge yourself with either the Rosie O donell fat cow women(which is all that you will get and makes you a loser)or go home to your Paris Hilton blowup doll that you have in you dads gay pedophile garage.

Either way you have are a loser and a closet homo since only closet emasucalte queers like U.S. women.

You know Scorpion I can tell that you are a loser that never gets laid because you think your being with a lot of women makes you happy and defines you. Sorry little man, but you have exposed yourself as the real loser. It’s kind of funny how you don’t contest the fact that you can’t read and have down syndrome. I think it is even more amusing that you think a garage can have a sexual preference. Then again you probably only have sexual intercourse with buildings given your mental disabilities. Oh and if you hate America so much why don’t you go back to the third world shithole you crawled out of and fuck as many whores as you want. Btw what do you have against gay people that you use it in a pejorative sense? Anyway that’s all for now jackass.

“Either way you have are a loser and a closet homo since only closet emasucalte queers like U.S. women.”

Well, with such a comment like this, I’d prefer to date a “closet emasculate queer” as you refer to them, because at least they won’t beat me up when I refuse sex to them like you probably would.

It’s my understanding that you prefer submissive women. Nothing wrong with that. But what’s good for the goose is not always good for the gander. It’s my understanding that regardless of where the woman comes from, when she is portrayed as beautiful (or pretty woman), intelligent and is not afraid to communicate her thoughts would, these attributes probably intimidate the hell out of you because she is indeed a force that maybe you cannot relate to let alone recognize.

What do you have against a beautiful AND intelligent woman that knows what she wants and is not afraid to say it?

I have no problem with a drop-dead gorgeous looking guy that knows what he wants and is not afraid to look for it.

Not all mediocore guys get the hot babes anymore than the mediocore gals get the hot guys. Some of us very above average looking babes don’t want an average looking guy. We want something that’s has eye appeal…not just somebody who is financilly secure.

Enough, it is quite clear you are a gay pedophile AIDS.

By the way I am American, and so your idea that I should “go back to my third world country” proves you neither have basic reading or writing skills.
I have so far proven you are a faggot that can either gay men or BBWs. This is a proof of a loser.

Real men sleep with hot women, not cows like you do.

“Well, with such a comment like this, I’d prefer to date a “closet emasculate queer” as you refer to them”

You are a scumbag piece of American female cunt sewage shit. Well when you get AIDS you will wish you thought othervise since all emascualte queer looking guys have the disease.

“What do you have against a beautiful AND intelligent woman that knows what she wants and is not afraid to say it?”

Women have no right to have desires. Period. Women like this(Usually American woman) need to be beaten. Sadly feminazi laws exist. Usually I do not like violence towards women, but this is the exception because women like you are hypocrits. If an average guy is with a drop dead gorgeous women, you are against it.

Its no wonder why I only date hot women from Eastern Europe or South America. As long as the guy acts nice he will get sex. Its pure and simple.

U.S. women esp white anlgo types are inferior to Eastern European and South American women. Its a fact. Only closet gay emasculate queers like Enough prefer U.S. women because they are cuckholds and like when they women cheats on them. Its a fact. All U.S. women cheat, esp the few that are hot.

By the way Enough, I am planning on moving to Argentina, Brazil, Czech Repubic, Spain, or Russia. I have already been to those places in and the women their put U.S. women to utter shame. Most of the women look like models yet are kind and sexually open.

I know you like “challenges” because you prefer the fat cow jabba the hut U.S. women.

You can keep the U.S. which is full of fat cow feminazi shit face looking women.

After all you are a loser and a gay ridden faggot pedophile cuckholded bastard. So its best if you get all the fat cow women.

I gotta say lol you really hate America don’t you. Well it’s good that you are leaving you’ll finally attain happiness.

And you will finally attain all the blubber and the Jabba the Huts, that you can have since you would not have to worry about me.

Why would I be worried about you in the first place. You don’t go for those types of women anyway or were you holding out on us?

Actually I dont hate the U.S.
I just hate U.S. women and U.S. culture.

Ok sure.

Scorpion

You stated, Women have no right to have desires. Period. Women like this(Usually American woman) need to be beaten. Sadly feminazi laws exist. Usually I do not like violence towards women, but this is the exception because women like you are hypocrits. If an average guy is with a drop dead gorgeous women, you are against it.

Scorpion, it sounds here like you’ve got some very serious personal issues. I truly feel for those women you date. Should you partake in such violence of such towards ANY woman, as you proudly boast on about this forum, that they have the decency integrity to have you thrown in jail and have the judge throw the book at you. True, some women can be mean and deceitful and disloyal creatures…but so can the men. But not all women are this way. I hope you get some help before you vent your anger out on an innocent woman. There should be a law against those men like you who think its perfectly right to beat up women.

You are not deserving of ANY woman’s companionship because you only love what you can control. And even that’s not love. Love is God and God is love and until you find peace within yourself you will NEVER love yourself let alone a woman.

“True, some women can be mean and deceitful and disloyal creatures”

In this case all U.S. women are like this especially if they are white anlgo women and if they are the last 5 percent of hot women.

“I truly feel for those women you date.”

They will feel sorry for the way you act and look. Like a cow.

“I hope you get some help before you vent your anger out on an innocent woman.”

As I said, I condemn all violence against women.

I have concluded that you are a cunt face feminazi and a shit faced hypocritical woman. You hate average looking men getting hot drop dead gorgeous women. You feel that they should only date cows.

First of all U.S. women are inferior in looks to Foreign women. Even if a U.S. woman is hot, she cannot still compare.

Scorpion

Sounds to me like you hate white women… period. It’s not an issue anymore about what’s hot what what’s not cause you choose to play the race card. In that case, maybe you SHOULD leave the United States. You’d think that in this day in age that those like you would get beyond the race card.

As I said, I condemn all violence against women.

No you don’t! I quote you below as stating:

Women have no right to have desires. Period. Women like this(Usually American woman) need to be beaten. Sadly feminazi laws exist. Usually I do not like violence towards women, but this is the exception because women like you are hypocrits.

You’ve got a looooong ways to go before you will ever evolve. Welcome to human race, Scorpion!

I did say their are exceptions you ugly wide vagina piece of shit.

You got a long way to go before you lose weight.

“Sounds to me like you hate white women”

Again you misquote everything. I have been to Russia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, Spain, Argentina and Brazil.

Do you notice a pattern??? All these countries have white women. You are incredibly retarded.

I suggest you try again.

I suggest you try again.

Here I quote you:

U.S. women esp white anlgo types are inferior to Eastern European and South American women.

No explanation is needed from me. You hate white women period…especially those in the U.S.

It doesn’t pay to be nice or polite to somebody like you. You take politeness as a sign of weakness. You choose to cut people down on this very forum and call them filthy names. I refuse to feed on your insecurities or come down to your level of mannerisms. IMHO, you are a very uncouth and uncivilized person incapable of have an intelligent discussion with people on this forum.

“You hate white women period…especially those in the U.S.”

Ok you are obviously an unculutred retarded woman. Typical of American woman.

Your interpretation is wrong. I hate U.S. white woman from Anglo descent.

How can I hate all white women if I go to Eastern Europe where women in those counries are white!!!!!. By they way they are NOT anglo.

Plus South America has alot of white women, but they are of mixed descent. I dont hate them.

You obviously are retarded.

HAHAHAHA, the most important thing from this reading to remember is, that we all grow old and do not look as we did when we were younger, kapish? When you are in your 40s you will be exhonarated from the sex pool, whether you like it or not. Then all the not so pretties, will spark your fire!! I’m 47, single without a sex partner for 12 years, and, I am not ugly or fat..

Um alot of 40 yr old women in Europe or South America are in excellent condition. They strive to be hot unlike U.S. women that start to look ugly right after 25.

Also men in their 40s have a better shot at getting hot European or Latin women. Its just a fact that U.S. women are inferior scum.

Scorpio, comment 1:

“As I said, I condemn all violence against women.”
Scorpio, next comment:
“I have concluded that you are a cunt face feminazi and a shit faced hypocritical woman. You hate average looking men getting hot drop dead gorgeous women. You feel that they should only date cows.”

Anyone else gawping at the irony and hoping he accidentally locks himself in a closet?

To the last poster, anyone can see that you are a gay faggot in the closet. None of my statements are ironic you AIDS ridden fag.

I think your opinions are based on bull and if you or anyone out there are really such self obsessed dudds you really should look at the long haul. Who’s going to wipe your old wrinkly butt, or put up with you when you don’t know who you are any more. Looks are the beginning of the end, if you don’t look for whats inside you will live and die alone. Getting laid, people take care of it yourself if it’s all that important. I am a thirty something single parent and would rather be that then a hypocrit.

To Scorpion:
You need some serious therapy and some medication to help the hatred spewing from your pores. You seem to hate everyone including yourself. I found you comments to be quite disturbing as well as full of self obsessed BS, get a grip and I really feel sorry for anyone who ends up in a serious relationship with you. I wasted 10 minutes reading your pitiful comments and writting this to you. Racist and Anti-American, WOW get another hobby read a book instead of writting comments.

Thank god for asia is all I have to say. Without these women I would have really started to believe that women are inherently evil.

The only reason men are like that is basically becuase they are sexist pigs with no thought for anybody but themsleves. If they bothered to look there are stunning girls who are really nice and sweet alone, probably practically suicidal because everyone else is getting off with hot guys and she never gets anybody. I think most girls would appreciate attention from ANY male because the media and friends and everyone and everthing around them say that you should be getting off with hot men or at least half-decent ones otherwise ther is something wrong with you. This is party the reason that so many young girls turn to other ways of getting attention (which usually involves dark streets if you get my meaning) or become these slutty, horrible girls which just reinforces the whole “women are pathetic and worthless unless they’re blonde” image to the men who have probably grown up with that drilled into their stupid tiny little heads and go around with for the rest of their life. Generally in my experience supposedly “beautiful women” (generally as long as they’re blonde and willing to flirt with everybody who speaks to them and squeal at nothing in particular and probably was once upon a time the girl who was suicidal and decided to dye her hair and get a fake tan they come under this catogry)are complete bitches. But by the time the guys realise this its too late - they’re already irrecognisable assholes who get off with about 10 different women a night. Until the media changes and people change and bloody 45 year old gits who ramble on about “the good old days when I got with this hot (blonde) babe” to their sons nothings going to change. It’s just one great big downward spiral and for those pretty-but-not-classified-as-so-becuase-they-are-not-blonde-or-a-slut and males continue to make our lives hell by continuing to act like this.